I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit off based.
The RedBull Rampage is the epitome of big mountain freeride, it is not a slopestyle competition. While I respect Bizet and agree his run was sick, his line was non technical compared to the top 3. Perhaps if his giant drop hadn't had the landing blown out, he would have been higher in the standings.
I think the event was judged as it should have been, for the technicality, style, line choice, and eventually tricks rather than just rewarding whomever threw the most tricks in a run.
With that all said, I wholeheartedly agree with Cam McCaul is saying that was the best rampage ever. I also agree with Richie Schley's statement that the run should end once you hit the flats. The big trick booters are not true to what the Rampage is and has always been about.
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit...
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit off based.
The RedBull Rampage is the epitome of big mountain freeride, it is not a slopestyle competition. While I respect Bizet and agree his run was sick, his line was non technical compared to the top 3. Perhaps if his giant drop hadn't had the landing blown out, he would have been higher in the standings.
I think the event was judged as it should have been, for the technicality, style, line choice, and eventually tricks rather than just rewarding whomever threw the most tricks in a run.
With that all said, I wholeheartedly agree with Cam McCaul is saying that was the best rampage ever. I also agree with Richie Schley's statement that the run should end once you hit the flats. The big trick booters are not true to what the Rampage is and has always been about.
I can sort of see what Schleyer is saying about the flat part...but what redeems it in my mind is the risk factor. You've stomped the big moves up on the mountain, now sign your run with something sick. Just because it's on the flat part doesn't make it any less risky in terms of the potential impact on your score, just look at Zink. Had he stomped his front flip, he could have won the contest (and nobody would have complained, even though it would still have been a close call between him and Sorge no doubt).
Bizet definitely got the rough end of the scoring on the day though. No doubt he was penalized for not having pulled off his big build, which is the part that really epitomizes Rampage. Had he laid down the same run with a massive move added in, do doubt he could have been in contention for a spot on the podium.
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit...
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit off based.
The RedBull Rampage is the epitome of big mountain freeride, it is not a slopestyle competition. While I respect Bizet and agree his run was sick, his line was non technical compared to the top 3. Perhaps if his giant drop hadn't had the landing blown out, he would have been higher in the standings.
I think the event was judged as it should have been, for the technicality, style, line choice, and eventually tricks rather than just rewarding whomever threw the most tricks in a run.
With that all said, I wholeheartedly agree with Cam McCaul is saying that was the best rampage ever. I also agree with Richie Schley's statement that the run should end once you hit the flats. The big trick booters are not true to what the Rampage is and has always been about.
Most of the sentiment I have seen was more so that he got massively underscored - not necessarily that he should have won. I would have a pretty hard time arguing with that and it was not the first fishy score IMO. The judges clearly have gobs of street cred, but they are still people. People make mistakes sometimes. Especially when faced with such an onslaught of radness in such a short period of time while hopped up never ending redbulls. LOOK!!!! A SQUIRREL!!!!
This "Rampage is big mtn freeride and not slopestyle" discussion is also getting old. There are elements of both needed to win. Look at all the recent winning and high scoring runs - they all had slopestyle elements were thrown into big runs.
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit...
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit off based.
The RedBull Rampage is the epitome of big mountain freeride, it is not a slopestyle competition. While I respect Bizet and agree his run was sick, his line was non technical compared to the top 3. Perhaps if his giant drop hadn't had the landing blown out, he would have been higher in the standings.
I think the event was judged as it should have been, for the technicality, style, line choice, and eventually tricks rather than just rewarding whomever threw the most tricks in a run.
With that all said, I wholeheartedly agree with Cam McCaul is saying that was the best rampage ever. I also agree with Richie Schley's statement that the run should end once you hit the flats. The big trick booters are not true to what the Rampage is and has always been about.
I can sort of see what Schleyer is saying about the flat part...but what redeems it in my mind is the risk factor. You've stomped the...
I can sort of see what Schleyer is saying about the flat part...but what redeems it in my mind is the risk factor. You've stomped the big moves up on the mountain, now sign your run with something sick. Just because it's on the flat part doesn't make it any less risky in terms of the potential impact on your score, just look at Zink. Had he stomped his front flip, he could have won the contest (and nobody would have complained, even though it would still have been a close call between him and Sorge no doubt).
Bizet definitely got the rough end of the scoring on the day though. No doubt he was penalized for not having pulled off his big build, which is the part that really epitomizes Rampage. Had he laid down the same run with a massive move added in, do doubt he could have been in contention for a spot on the podium.
Was Bizet really under scored by judges because he built something he didn't ride? If so, I would have hoped he was informed beforehand that that is what he should expect......
And DubC is right about everything , (except the squirrel), Bizet would never have won the People's choice in a landslide vote if people watching generally didn't think he was robbed .......nor would the crowd have booed the score.
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit...
I'm not one to post an opinion for the most part, but I have to say all this Bizet should have won talk is a bit off based.
The RedBull Rampage is the epitome of big mountain freeride, it is not a slopestyle competition. While I respect Bizet and agree his run was sick, his line was non technical compared to the top 3. Perhaps if his giant drop hadn't had the landing blown out, he would have been higher in the standings.
I think the event was judged as it should have been, for the technicality, style, line choice, and eventually tricks rather than just rewarding whomever threw the most tricks in a run.
With that all said, I wholeheartedly agree with Cam McCaul is saying that was the best rampage ever. I also agree with Richie Schley's statement that the run should end once you hit the flats. The big trick booters are not true to what the Rampage is and has always been about.
@sambrody. I agree with most of it. But I also don't agree with eliminating the bottom of the course. That part has a lot to do with entertainment and to help equalize scores. It would be like taking the style out of speed and style.
People go APE when big hits are thrown down there. And ultimately this event is for entertainment. Those hits are judged and they can help make a difference in close runs. If you're going to risk falling anywhere you should get rewarded for it. There are guys that do pretty much nothing on the hits up top and guys that do flips or threes up there. You saying they shouldn't be rewarded for doing tricks on the smaller hits all over the hill? It's really no different.
It's all part of it. Those hits down there are freakin huge so just gooning off them is a risk.
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The RedBull Rampage is the epitome of big mountain freeride, it is not a slopestyle competition. While I respect Bizet and agree his run was sick, his line was non technical compared to the top 3. Perhaps if his giant drop hadn't had the landing blown out, he would have been higher in the standings.
I think the event was judged as it should have been, for the technicality, style, line choice, and eventually tricks rather than just rewarding whomever threw the most tricks in a run.
With that all said, I wholeheartedly agree with Cam McCaul is saying that was the best rampage ever. I also agree with Richie Schley's statement that the run should end once you hit the flats. The big trick booters are not true to what the Rampage is and has always been about.
Bizet definitely got the rough end of the scoring on the day though. No doubt he was penalized for not having pulled off his big build, which is the part that really epitomizes Rampage. Had he laid down the same run with a massive move added in, do doubt he could have been in contention for a spot on the podium.
This "Rampage is big mtn freeride and not slopestyle" discussion is also getting old. There are elements of both needed to win. Look at all the recent winning and high scoring runs - they all had slopestyle elements were thrown into big runs.
And DubC is right about everything , (except the squirrel), Bizet would never have won the People's choice in a landslide vote if people watching generally didn't think he was robbed .......nor would the crowd have booed the score.
People go APE when big hits are thrown down there. And ultimately this event is for entertainment. Those hits are judged and they can help make a difference in close runs. If you're going to risk falling anywhere you should get rewarded for it. There are guys that do pretty much nothing on the hits up top and guys that do flips or threes up there. You saying they shouldn't be rewarded for doing tricks on the smaller hits all over the hill? It's really no different.
It's all part of it. Those hits down there are freakin huge so just gooning off them is a risk.
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